FOX, CNN, and the Naudet Brothers documentary all feature a blackout, right at history's defining moment. What are the odds of that happening by chance?
Many have theorized that the blackouts were attempts to cover up mistakes during the "17 second delay" (as in September Clues). But you seem to say that the shots were actually done fully live, with no delay.
If that is true then the blackouts make more sense as a precautionary measure to cover up what they knew was a tough thing to perfect. That is, they blacked out "just in case" they screwed up.
But how do you explain the lack of a blackout during the ABC-7 shot? Why would they blackout the CNN shot (which was the same as the ABC shot), but not the ABC shot itself?
The 17 second delay doesn't make sense to me. If they did delay it, they wouldn't have broadcast a mistake, like Chopper 5.
Also, the audio on ABC is consistent with switching OUT of delay. There are two beeps, and Don Dahler is cut off, and then starts a new sentence.
I think there must have been a technical reason they had to go totally live, perhaps having to do with transmitting master time code to both helicopters.
The ABC shot went fine, they got the airplane layer out on time, there was no need to blackout.
CNN was not originating a shot, they were playing the feed from ABC. I suppose the switcher got scared and dissolved to a "safe" shot, including blacking out.
If the ABC shot is totally live, then obviously all the other shots would also have to be totally live, since they all occured at the same time. So, if they are totally live, then there is no way they can black out because of a mistake. The black out would have to occur "totally live". When the black screen occurs, they have no idea whether there's a mistake to cover up or not.
Unless you're saying that they decided to do the blackout while they were preparing the layer, before the plane appearance. Is that what you're saying? Because up until now, I thought people were implying that the blackout occurs after they've seen their mistake happen (which is more in line with Simon Shack's argument).
Anyhow, I agree with your interpretation of the beeps. Simon's has too many problems. But you're both doing a good job, thanks.
So what you're saying is that if someone was watching the hit on ABC, theoretically they could have changed the station immediately after the "totally live" hit, then saw the "delayed live" hit on another station some time later (17 seconds?).
I think FOX and ABC were live. I don't know if other networks were live or delayed. If they were delayed, they could be delayed by any amount of time, not just 17 seconds.
If one station is delayed more than another, then yes, you could switch over and "see it again".
The whole "17 seconds" thing came from Simon Shack, and it's because the "beep beep" on ABC happens 17 seconds before the plane.
I think it's simply that they switched from delay to live 17 seconds before the plane shot. The delay time could have been anything.
17 seconds is not enough time to edit and check a composite. I think the first edited composite to come off the press was "Park Foreman".
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Many have theorized that the blackouts were attempts to cover up mistakes during the "17 second delay" (as in September Clues). But you seem to say that the shots were actually done fully live, with no delay.
If that is true then the blackouts make more sense as a precautionary measure to cover up what they knew was a tough thing to perfect. That is, they blacked out "just in case" they screwed up.
But how do you explain the lack of a blackout during the ABC-7 shot? Why would they blackout the CNN shot (which was the same as the ABC shot), but not the ABC shot itself?
The 17 second delay doesn't make sense to me. If they did delay it, they wouldn't have broadcast a mistake, like Chopper 5.
Also, the audio on ABC is consistent with switching OUT of delay. There are two beeps, and Don Dahler is cut off, and then starts a new sentence.
I think there must have been a technical reason they had to go totally live, perhaps having to do with transmitting master time code to both helicopters.
The ABC shot went fine, they got the airplane layer out on time, there was no need to blackout.
CNN was not originating a shot, they were playing the feed from ABC. I suppose the switcher got scared and dissolved to a "safe" shot, including blacking out.
Hi Ace, just a note about the ABC shot:
If the ABC shot is totally live, then obviously all the other shots would also have to be totally live, since they all occured at the same time. So, if they are totally live, then there is no way they can black out because of a mistake. The black out would have to occur "totally live". When the black screen occurs, they have no idea whether there's a mistake to cover up or not.
Unless you're saying that they decided to do the blackout while they were preparing the layer, before the plane appearance. Is that what you're saying? Because up until now, I thought people were implying that the blackout occurs after they've seen their mistake happen (which is more in line with Simon Shack's argument).
Anyhow, I agree with your interpretation of the beeps. Simon's has too many problems. But you're both doing a good job, thanks.
No, the fact that two videos (ABC Chopper 7, FOX CHopper 5) were live, does not mean that any other ones were live.
So what you're saying is that if someone was watching the hit on ABC, theoretically they could have changed the station immediately after the "totally live" hit, then saw the "delayed live" hit on another station some time later (17 seconds?).
I think FOX and ABC were live. I don't know if other networks were live or delayed. If they were delayed, they could be delayed by any amount of time, not just 17 seconds.
If one station is delayed more than another, then yes, you could switch over and "see it again".
The whole "17 seconds" thing came from Simon Shack, and it's because the "beep beep" on ABC happens 17 seconds before the plane.
I think it's simply that they switched from delay to live 17 seconds before the plane shot. The delay time could have been anything.
17 seconds is not enough time to edit and check a composite. I think the first edited composite to come off the press was "Park Foreman".
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